“The first message that I honestly remember receiving about my hair was that it was hard to manage,” singer-songwriter Kelly Rowland told The Root.

As a black woman who has hair that’s been referred to as “a rat’s nest,” I can relate. First question: Do rats even have nests?! Follow-up question: Why are you concerned about how I am managing my hair? Get out of my scalp.”

Alas, these are struggles women with natural hair deal with. But back to Kelly Rowland’s hair...

For Rowland, falling in love with her hair came from a bit of encouragement and a new do. “I’ve loved my hair ever since Tina cut it short,” said Kelly Rowland. That “Tina” would be the “Ms. Tina,” beautician extraordinaire, Queen-mother of Queen Bey. Over the years, Ms. Tina gave Rowland much-needed pride in her mane.

“I don’t know if she knows it, but she gave me the confidence behind my hair,” Rowland confessed. “She made me feel that I could do anything and it would be great.”

Sitting down with The Root to talk about the first message she received about her hair to her signature styles, Kelly Rowland to talked all things hair. See the entire video above.